This chapter 276 is a gift for sponsored chapter by Lord Michael B! Brought to you by June and Ninja. Yes I’m going to rant a little about an unfair review I read because I can 🙂 And sorry Aylsychu I fight for truth so I can’t ignore this injustice to Su Luo. True, Su Luo does have an unreasonable attachment to Nangong but she is not a leech nor weak!
Dear Reviewer # 19 on DKC page at novelupdates,
I really appreciate your long, detailed and through review. Fortunately for readers, as the translator of DKC I am certain you are reading a different novel than the one I am currently translating. It’s unfortunate for you if you really did read DKC, since it points to a complete lack of English reading comprehension which surprised me; as your writing doesn’t indicate such deficiency. From your review I know you will not read this and even if you do, I am certain you will not understand what I just wrote. Finally I am usually sad about losing a reader but in your case I can say with confidence that I am not losing a READER since you apparently can’t read.
Best wishes
June
P.S. I appreciate both negative as well as positive reviews that are accurate and truthful, because only when people love or hate something would they bother to write about it. In your case I am pissed off at your fantastical stretching of the truth in describing Su Luo which has crossed over to the lies territory.
Yes I have a mean sarcastic streak in me that pops up once in a while. I am tired of following the Asian rule that SILENCE is GOLDEN.
lmao
now I want to read this review. Can you link to it?
Here is the link….http://www.novelupdates.com/series/the-demonic-king-chases-his-wife-the-rebellious-good-for-nothing-miss/
Scroll down to read the reviews: the top ones are the most recent postings. You can’t miss it since it’s so long….
Well, that review is quite off with some of the description.
“just a whining, crying good for nothing who leeches from her family” Yeah… um… her family owes her at least that much. They beat her and tortured her, cut her, tried to kill her, bullied her, mistreated her, neglected her, and her getting some of her stuff back is not leeching. They owe her a huge debt.
As for Nangong… he doesn’t deserve her atm.
As for Nangong… yeah, but who can trust someone who protects and trusts someone who you know tried to kill you.
As for proclaiming to disown her family… I don’t recall her doing that anywhere. She hasn’t said it out loud to anyone. She doesn’t consider them family, and I don’t see why she should. If they starve you, beat you, cut you, poison you, torment you, and let you suffer alone without medicine when you are sick, why should you consider them family?
Right now she can’t survive on her own, so it’s natural to stay with them still. Once she has the required strength, she’ll likely set off like those I know who’ve managed to get away from that sort of background.
The wilderness is full of dangers she can’t face. It’s full of creatures stronger than Nangong Liu. What that means is, everything there is faster than her, stronger than her, and tougher than her. As beasts, they also likely have better vision, hearing, and noses than her. She can’t hide in her space, because only her senses go in. She’d have no control of her body and her body would be lying right out in the open. She might as well be a rabbit whose burrow is really just some tall grass.
As for her training speed, it’s fast, but if she has to protect her life the whole time, it’s going to take a lot longer normally, and she’d probably be constantly injured or on the brink of death. Other MC’s would power on through that and somehow get stronger, but normally that would actually weaken you until it kills you. There’d be no time to recover.
Let me know if there’s a normal person who manages to get one disease that makes them bedridden, and then gets another before they fully recover, over and over again, who actually gets stronger from that. In fact, I’m pretty sure there’s plenty of people who’ve died from diseases weakening their immune system, causing more diseases to flood in, ultimately resulting in death.
Argh, this whole review is frustrating even though I’m not too fond of either Su Luo or Nangong Liu right now.
well, i have to partially agree with the reviewer, she certainly doesn’t look like a assassin, or a “strong” woman, at all right now! She freaking got dazed by his scent, scent WTF! Is this a shoujo novel (a bad one in fact)?!
Just because a woman falls head over heels for a guy at first sight doesn’t mean the women is ‘weak’ (after all then let’s throw out all the romance novels. Yes this is a romance novel). Like I mentioned in the post outside of her ‘weakness’ for Nangong she used her head to get revenge for the soul of this body she took over. She is stronger than those characters because she didn’t have their advantage of having her skills being transferable into another world that follows different rules! I could write a thesis on this topic but that would just bore the readers! Besides I have to translate 🙁
june your right…
the rules are different inside this world…
and i hope she will be always weaker than a other martial arts user on the same level…
the main reason for this argument is she is a assasin not a brawler
she has a different kind of skillset
thats what i always hope to get out of an story with assassins
but most the time it evolves into a brawler *sigh*
Yep but a smart assassin is more like a ninja… in and out without being noticed… They definitely won’t get involved in a brawl, not cost effective for their training.
Falling in love? No problem! Getting lead by the nose? That’s weakness for me. He’s forceful and possessive as hell and she barely gets annoyed by that, at least she doesn’t do anything against it seriously. If this kind of woman is a strong personality in your view i only can say that i disagree until i am proven wrong.
I totally agree that she has an unreasonable weakness for Nangong Liuyun but one character flaw would negate all her other strong accomplishment? I personally don’t feel that would be fair.
My advise, if u don’t like it, stop reading it and move on. Find other novel you like rather than venting your critics to the novelists or the story. Its fortunate enough somebody willing to translate this novel.
I don’t think you understand what reviews are…
I agree with the reviewer too. S/he presented her case very well. But I am still following this webnovel despite the flaws the reviewer has listed because of the lack of OP female MC and sometime silly is enjoyable, you know?
I am very disappointed with the translator’s response. The review merely criticized content, however disagreeable it might be to the translator. Instead of directly addressing those criticisms and chalking it up to differences of interpretation and taste, she chose to *personally attack* the reviewer. Oy.
As I mentioned in my post I don’t mind negative reviews but my interpretation of the review was that he/she sprinkled a few truths here and there but filled the rest with lies. When people start lying then it can no longer be called interpretation, it’s now called made up/false/fiction etc… Trying to address all the lies in that review would be longer than 100 chapters of DKC. That’s why I posted a short rant using *sarcasm* (yes it’s a way to express humor but not everyone gets it), and sorry you interpreted this as a full on attack on the reviewer…As it is we are confronted with another interpretation problem of my choice in using sarcastic humor.
Taking away the sarcasm I was just trying to say that the reviewer definitely did not read the DKC I posted. If the person read it and I want to stress the word IF then their review should be as logical and truthful as what you just wrote in your post. If you feel that what I just said is a personally attack on their character then so be it… I am calling out the person as a liar.
There’s only so much a translator can take, aye. You poured your time and sweat on this project, you’re entitled to defend it. I read the review. While some of the points the reviewer made sense, but this is DKC. Not some other novel as s/he pointed out. Different author, different views. If every novel churns out MC with the same persona, there would be nothing to read.
Thank you for the new chapter. Don’t be too upset 🙂
Thank you… You took the words right out of my mouth. I think I hit the roof because of so many comparison with other novels. In this case not even accurate comparisons. This is not a rewrite of other novels. It has its own plot, characters and their personalities. If you want to compare than use similar Xianxia books. The only similarity between DOP and DKC is main character is a time travel assassin. That’s it… DOP is not Xianxia it’s world is more Wuxia.
Actually that comment is so negative I now want to read this story.
To facts check the comment? We always welcome new judges 😉
I was kinda restraint myself from reading after she got Meng Meng… But then i picked it up again just binge read 60chapters, fmw! The story is a beautiful kind of, ya know, a ‘normal’ girl with cunning heart.. So far it had been entertaining but damn man, i want it to end so that i know how the ending is like. NL must been kicked to hell and back by her, countless time.
Sorry to tell you this but the raw still haven’t ended yet…. Well in terms of the title of Nangong Liuyun chasing Su Luo then that will end in 3000 chapters or so.
I think that reviewer is aggrieved at the lost opportunity. Unlike similar titles, eg: “A Mistaken Marriage Match: A Generation of Military Counselor”, the encounters of the MC with the male lead has diluted the MC somewhat. The reader is constantly reminded of Nanggong’s cruel, mesmerizing beauty and thus those who tuned in to see a modern woman beating the conservative out of the ancient fogies are left with a sense that we’re reading a woman who is inevitably and irresistibly falling for his charms.
I’m reading this story as it goes (my review at NU at Ch.211 was somewhat positive) but I can’t help but feel the MC has lost her identity. Recently I read “The Demoness Is Not Evil” and I felt it portrayed a sparring relationship between equals nicely. It has similar forceful flirting like in DKC, but not entirely one-sided like Nanggong’s.
There isn’t such a feeling of ‘equality’ yet in DKC because the MC, while gifted with numerous special attributes and treasures; is still far from being able to fight back against the male lead. In short, some readers want to see her making it difficult for Nanggong to court, and not end up like an angry but helpless lamb in front of him most of the time.
I totally agree with your review… I loved Mistaken Marriage Match and feel that the female character is strong. But it’s also a shorter story. DKC is longer so we get the detailed process of Su Luo leveling up while shorter stories could skip this part. Once Su Luo level gets closer to Nangong’s then their romance will seem more equal. At this point I’d even say Nangong Liuyun caused her more trouble than helped her because he made the Jade Fairy her enemy.
This is actually what is so badly done in this story. Basically, it’s the xanxia logic applied to a pseudo romantical setting.
The strong are respected. In this case, it’s exactly the same.
She won’t be seen as an equal unless she’s as strong. Which means, this story is saying to us, readers, that “love” isn’t as important as “strength”.
This is a romance novel, you say, but that is exactly what is wrong with it at this point of the story.
At this point, this is just one girl head over heels for a guy who’s using his strength to tie her to him. There is no romance between equal lovers. I can’t say the reviewer was totally wrong on those aspects. Strengh > Romance in a Romance novel, that’s actually a weird choice from the author and you can’t expect everyone to be fine with that.
Your point of view toward the romance is most likely toned down by the fact you read this through and reached the point where Su Luo and Nangong are respecting each other. However, for us readers, we aren’t at that point yet, so you can’t actually say that this reviewer wasn’t reading the same story as you.
Anyway, although I don’t agree with everything he wrote, some comments he made in his review actually make sense at this point in the story.
I know it’s difficult to take those kind of negative reviews as someone working on a project you enjoy. I hope you’ll calm down and not be that upset about it.
However, you can rant about a review but you should actually rebuke his arguments, not attack him personally about his ability to understand English. That person clearly stated he read DKC up to chapter 260. He obviously can’t relate to Su Luo as a MC and he has no knowledge of whatever happens 4000 chapters later. Consequently, you can’t both have the same understanding of the novel as a whole either.
My rant if you get rid of the sarcasm was meant to say 1) I doubt the person read the story as he/she stated. 2) Most of the thing said in the review were lies…. If those are considered personal attacks then yes I attacked his/her credibility.
Nowhere did I ever meant to write that his/her English sucks, if you had read that entire sentence through you will note I thought this person should know English pretty well… The point of the sentence was to emphasize the fact this person did not read DKC. If I really thought this person had poor English why would I even bother responding in English and using Sarcasm which requires strong English background?
As to responding to the review’s points… there were so many lies that I could only respond to the touch of truth. Most people that agree with the review had their own problems with the romance and yes I agree this type of ‘romance’ is not something I approve of. The romance is only a tiny portion of the story for right now…Now the story is focused on Su Luo growing stronger. And here the reviewer started to throw out lies:
1) Su Luo is 15 in an new world…its more dangerous to runaway in an unknown place to cultivate…Not to mention unlike DOP it takes years not 1 month to cultivate.
2) The reviewer can’t make up his/her mind about Nangong Liuyun one one hand saying Su Luo should accept him for his help, while saying she is weak for accepting his help….
3) Su Luo does not pick fights with people she is stronger because she is too stupid to know her strength. She was not given much choice especially with the Fairy. As to Liu ChengFeng their Levels were similar, he is not stronger than her. Her sister’s levels with exception of Su Qing are all equal or below hers.
4) I am not using any knowledge from beyond the current chapters that are published.
5) There seem to be a double standard when it comes to judging female main character vs male main character. Yun che in ATG was even more ruthless, underhanded than Su Luo and yet he is ‘strong’ while Su Luo is ‘weak’. Also Yun Che had his own luck in getting cultivation methods that nobody complained about. My point is that it seem as if a Female lead is only ‘strong’ if she act like guy…hum NO. While male main character have girl chasing him to help him and it’s okay but to have male character chasing after female main character such as Su Luo it makes her weak because he helped her? Su Luo helped heal Nangong also just like Yun che help heal the woman who helped him and nobody called Yun Che weak nor women crazy for being blinded by their beauty… etc..
Well, you shouldn’t have used sarcasm to actually prove him wrong in this context. I like sarcasms myself but in this case…
Anyway, listing the parts you felt were wrongs in his review like you just did would have been better.
1. I also agree with you.
2. I think that in this case, that reviewer was trying to point out that although Nangong was too agressive, Su Luo wasn’t decisive enough. I don’t think his argumentation was about accepting Nangong or not, but about Su Luo being indecisive.
In this case though, Su Luo proved to be a tsundere so being indecisive was a given I guess. Tsundere and “best assassin from Earth background” don’t work well together though, poor choice from Author-san.
3. I agree with you on this point. So far, she was compelled to antagonize every single person she angered. Never was she the first to pick the fight and it wouldn’t have been good for her to let those people trample over her without fighting back.
4. Still, your point of view is most likely influenced by what you know about what will happen. In this reviewer’s case, he’s stuck with what he read until chapter 260+ so nothing can help Su Luo and Nangong to redeem themselves in his eyes.
5. I don’t think comparing Su Luo to Yun Che is relevant. I for one don’t like Yun Che and some points you just listed are part of things I dislike about him. Also, girls aren’t actually chasing after Yun Che… He has always been the one making the advances first. Once they fell for him, it’s not relevant anymore whether they help him or not.
There are things I dislike about the way Su Luo was depicted but talking about a double standard is way exagerated in this case. You can’t generalize everyone’s point of view like this.
Su Luo being cold-blooded is something I appreciate because she’s supposed to be used to killing after all.
Another point is that Su Luo might be physically 15, but she’s not mentally 15. She should be way more emotionally mature. I don’t want her to act like a male MC either but on the other hand, I want her to stand her ground when needed against Nangong’s pushiness. This has nothing to do with Su Luo being a girl and having a man chasing after her.
I dislike it too when a male MC can’t be decisive against a pushy female character although he’s not fine with it.
Also, even if she can’t actually physically reject Nangong or protect herself against him, she should know better not to tease him. He’s way stronger than her, that we know. But this isn’t about the power gap. This is about her not properly using her cunningness to take advantage of him and his resources if he wants to take advantage of her body (I’m not talking about sex).
Overall, I don’t agree with everything that reviewer said but although most of your points are right, I actually can’t agree with everything you said either.
“Well, you shouldn’t have used sarcasm to actually prove him wrong in this context. I like sarcasms myself but in this case…” First of all sarcasm is a great literary tool used by many reviewers. Second my entire point of the rant was to express my opinion that what the reviewer said was mostly lies and you don’t have to agree with me on this either. Finally just like the reviewer was not censored in what he/she wrote, I refuse to censored my own post which is like a personal blog not an open one like novelupdates. I do appreciate your thoughts on DKC, but at the end of the day I stand by ‘rant’ and you are allowed to disagree 🙂
Well I totally get what the person meant but well… words have a different impact depending of how you say it. Basically he is comparing this story with Descent of the Phoenix but his comparison gets confusing if you don’t know what the person talking about. My review would contain some of the following statements:
The romance in this novel so far is not in accordance to western standards. The story contains elements from taoism. The MC represents a rather pure ying character, being manipulative and deceitful. The male lead, in part, is majorly pure yang. He is overbearing and tyrannical, which in turns makes him a possessive type of person.
This series contains elements from typical chinese literature. Revenge is one of the main motifs.
In terms of romance, the male lead is rather yandere kind of guy, getting overly jealous whenever the MC disses his advantages. He even makes threats that he’s going to destroy her if she thinks of going with another guy.
The romance is a 2/5 and the action is a 4/5.
Well, at least that’s what I’ve gotten from the story so far. I kinda am saying some things similar to what the reviewer is trying to convey but with less emotional statements. I kinda am interested in what is going to happen but I hope this forceful romance ends someday. I understand where this kind of romance comes from but I would be glad if it ends.
I mean, I don’t read every novel out there and certainly wouldn’t like to stop reading one I’ve been reading for quite a long time.
Yes I agree… I think the reviewer’s word choice, organization and thought process was so disordered that I saw what was written as mostly lies. If the reviewer took some time to write an logical review like yours. Then I don’t even mind getting a 1/5
I feel that while similar premises, it’s not fair to compare Descent of the Phoenix and DKC…they are almost feel like different genres to be honest? In terms of focusing on fighting vs. romance…the speed of developments…and focusing on strategy.
I personally, could not stand reading DP because the MC felt too OP, there was so much focus on fighting, less scheming/strategy, it became boring/repetitive, and the romance felt shallow.
Meanwhile, while Su Luo has amazing potential, her strength still starts out low as a “Good for Nothing” instead of being OP in a flash. It’s not that she’s weak, but that she only just started out and others are strow. It’s only been a couple of WEEKS since she could even cultivate. And even then, that is super amazing and speedy. (And expecting a 2nd ranked person to beat a 7th ranked is ridiculous.) It just feels longer since the author is lingering over the details –maybe a bit excessively, but it’s still better than being cold and told they suddenly are in ‘love.’ It’s more show than tell. It’s all much more interesting. Instead of focusing on just physical fights, there is also a lot more strategy and betting, things that happen within one’s mind…as a result more of the plot happens there and things are drawn out, but battles are more interesting.
DP is more shounen, while DKC is more romance (& realistic/slow)…people have different tastes…at least that is my take.
I love DKC and have a weakness for possessive lovers…and that is my take. Though I would like more Su Luo to advance more in her skills and have less focus on the scent of NL, but I bet I’ll miss him once he’s MIA all over again…
***it’s not that she’s weak, but that others are -Strong- (typo sorry)
It is called Demon King Chases After His Good For Nothing Wife XD
(though we know her potential & innate talent is different than that
And you just described exactly how I see the two books as being so different. This is why I get pissed when people compare the two books. But before at least the comparison wasn’t so far from the truth…this reviewer *sigh* like you said choice and word order makes a difference.
And yep DOP is wuxia (mostly martial arts cultivation only), while DKC is Xianxia (cultivation through magical means etc…with fantasy elements). Different genre.
i read it a little, and i would call that review bullshit. And in my opinion all the people who write about her personality suddenly changing and her behaving like a preschooler in love… I think they just don´t have the right mind and fantasy to read it.
I mean~
First of all nangong is like what? 50 Times stronger than her?
Her base situation is like noob running into the world boss.
And he´sin the least as intelligent as her, just that he has the advantage of fucking beeing born and having collected experience in that world, so of cause she looks dumb in front of him~ it´s like asking a physiscs professor to write a detailed essay about chinese history without preparation.
And like hell, even if you have fucked 10 000 mediocre bitches and memorised the kamasutra, if you are confronted with perfect beauty you can still stagger and get a bit slow in the brain.
It´s not like she´s some emotionless machine~
And of cause he is the prince to boot, so she can´t really defy him. He could readicate her whole clan, without fearing retribution.
I think most of the people who spout that nonsense, just lack the imagination and utterly underestimate nangong. You shouldn´t think “she´s a top assassin! She shouldn´t react like that ”
It´s ” Even so she´s a top assassins, she reacts like that”
It makes the power gab wider and shows that she´s not op, of cause if you go by “She should be strongest, most fearsome and coldest person in that world”, like the MC of DoP, then you are reading the wrong novel
Exactly I think us modern people forgot how lawless and unfair the past was… Middle Ages, Ancient China, Ancient Egypt, Ancient Rome etc…Back then the strong and rich was the law.
hm.. i must say the review are to much and out of line. first of all, like the title, she start from good for nothing and she is definitely not assassin. she is physician in the first place. her luck is her greatest benefit. and looking at the review that she is being described as man idiot chaser, seriously ? i don’t think the reviewer read the story from the first chapter.
Su Luo is very hard to catch even by our no 1 great so handsome so drooling king. I can tell you this because I read the chinese version as well up to 800 chpt now since i can’t wait for the english translation but english version suit me better since chinese is not my first language and reading those char costs me lots of eye drops and bilberry supplement..
anyway, review doesn’t mean to be good but you doesn’t have to insult the writer or belittle the translator. if you don’t like it just move on. No one force you to read and you can’t expect everyone else shared the same taste or opinion as you.
Agreed. Also at least you can read Chinese characters. I just understand Chinese and use google translate to read it to me.
I haven’t read this but after seeing the number of total chapter 6000+ and still ongoing? It makes me immediately backpedalled. I have read a couple of chinese web novels and I can’t seem pass trough the barrier of 200+ chapters since it usually becomes too repetitives and the initial spark of interest from the series is lost. As a casual reader I’m wondering is this an unwritten law that a chinese series has to be that seemingly frighteningly long or there are shorter series out there?
6000 chapters yes but each chapter of DKC is so short.
People expect too much of “assassin” characters to be honest, that job usually means being able to follow orders and risk your life rather than being a master manipulator…
If anything it should be somewhat expected that she have trouble dealing with people with her background.
I agree, no matter what their job is in the end they should still be human… Although I think people’s image of “assassins” are non-human robots…Terminator anyone?